Pablo Iglesias says that Yolanda Díaz's interview "distances Sumar from Podemos even further": "I don't know how this salad of hosts helps"

Pablo Iglesias confesses that he did not want to see Yolanda Díaz's interview live in Lo de Évole. The chapter of a series was put on so that Irene Montero and he could go to sleep “calmly” and “without bitterness”. But at four in the morning the “unconscious” betrayed him and, awake, he began to devour his intervention in La Sexta.

After seeing the suit that he made for her, the bitter conclusion of Iglesias is that the interview “distances Yolanda and Sumar from Podemos even further” regardless of the express words that he dedicated to him. This is what he has written in an article in CTXT, one of the media where he collaborates and from which he plays, as Díaz pointed out, a “sharpened” leadership, demonstrating that he has not left that role or that he “lets the leaders of Can.

In RAC 1 he has also left his opinion on his statements: “I don't know how yesterday's host salad helps us do well in the municipal and regional elections”. “Hopefully the teammates lower their tone a bit and understand that, from respect for what each one represents.”

In this sense, he has emphasized that it was not right. “I don't think she is happy today, doing a bad interview has happened to all of us, and that is lived with great bitterness later,” he said.

Returning to his article, he has pointed out the impact that it will have on the space “I think it has generated a lot of sadness among militants and people on the left,” reflects Iglesias this Monday.

Despite the growing distance between Díaz and Podemos, Iglesias points out that the electoral law and the need for progressive governments not to fall “are obvious reasons to go to the elections together”. In any case, he warns Sumar that “it must stop trying to integrate Podemos into its platform, in the same way that Podemos never tried to integrate other parties.”

His reflection is that Podemos is “more necessary than ever” and that this was confirmed yesterday when listening to the second vice president. “The left that Sumar represents is legitimate and necessary, but I believe that without what Podemos represents, both electorally and ideologically, it will be impossible to continue advancing.. I believe that both spaces should walk together electorally, but without denying that they are different. It would be lying to the public to say that Sumar and Podemos are the same. Yesterday it was seen that no “.

Iglesias is hurt by criticism. “I am used to always taking a lot of hosts, to being called authoritarian and macho and to being told to shut up once and for all.. Although they hurt, I try to accept them with sportsmanship and I admit that, surely, there is a lot of truth in them. What I don't quite understand is how all this helps to build electoral unity now.”

Podemos “media asset”

In his defense, he justifies not keeping quiet that he is “fulfilling” the “role” entrusted to him by the general secretary of Podemos, Ione Belarra, and assures that he will continue to act in the same way because, he points out, what he is doing is being ” a media asset” of the party. And he will follow the same line, aware that “many of Sumar's colleagues” reject what he does.

Regarding his macho behavior, he acknowledges that he has them as “many men of the left” but takes advantage of this criticism to say that he does not dare to say it about other powerful people. “I understand why it doesn't, but sometimes the most valuable thing in politics is not to hit the one that everyone hits even though you may be right, but to use the immense power that hundreds of thousands of citizens listen to to criticize whom no one dares criticize,” he says.

Jordi Évole's questions left many issues in which Díaz distanced himself from the line of Podemos. Sometimes more for the forms than for the subject itself. And other times for the very bottom. One of those issues is the offensive and the smear campaign led by Iglesias against journalists and the media.. The former general secretary of Podemos reproaches him. “Ione Belarra never hesitates to point out that the key to the sewers and the violence against Podemos is in the media and she does not hesitate to put a name and surname to this harassment”. From journalists or businessmen. “Yolanda and Sumar would never do that and we both know it,” he says. “I understand and respect them, but I am not going to shut up.”

Answer from Irene Montero

Irene Montero has assessed Yolanda Díaz's interview as “very worrying” because, in her opinion, the second vice president is “reinforcing the possibility that Podemos and Sumar will not go to the elections together”. “That generates a lot of sadness in many people,” he finished.

In statements to the media during a visit to the Costume Museum, he has delved into the fact that from his party “it is time to do” his “part”, which he has said is to “reach more agreements than ever for these municipal and regional elections, defend the unity and continue defending a coalition agreement between Podemos and Sumar to run in the general elections despite the reproaches”.

For her part, Ione Belarra has responded to Díaz that the commitment to the unity of Podemos is “beyond any doubt” and that she is available to sign an agreement on open primaries whenever she wants.. In statements to RNE, collected by Europa Press, he stressed that he “reaches out” to Díaz to reach an agreement with Sumar, despite the fact that they are two different projects, with a view to presenting themselves together and giving a “positive” message to the electorate, Because of the electoral law, that broad front is of interest.

And on this point, he stressed that in politics it is relevant to look “at the facts” and at the “service menu” that each one can put on the table. Specifically, she has highlighted that Podemos has done its homework in the face of the 28M elections by closing “more than ever” unity agreements with the IU in the territories, a balance of which she is proud.

“I think that the commitment of Podemos is beyond any doubt, especially because under the leadership of Pablo Iglesias, we managed to build a united space that went, let's say, from what the Greens represent in Germany to the Communist Party,” he claimed. .

Likewise, from the national leadership of Podemos, an attempt has been made to surf the controversy by trying to lower the tone in its usual press conference on Mondays.. The national spokesman, Pablo Fernández, has said that Podemos has an “outstretched hand” and that his predisposition is to reach a unity agreement. “Our commitment to unity is supported by the facts,” he stressed, alluding to the pacts with IU:

In this appearance, Alejandra Jacinto was a co-spokesperson, who is also a candidate for Unidas Podemos in the Community of Madrid and who was a surprise protagonist of the interview. And it is that, Díaz left in the air the idea that he will vote for Más Madrid, his rival. Asked about this, Jacinto has claimed that her candidacy will be “decisive for change” and, without wanting to go into whether she is hurt by her words, she has defended that she is “convinced” that she is “doing things right”, that she has opted for unity in Madrid “with those who wanted to join” and stressed that she is ready to “dislodge” the PP.